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    <font size="-1"><font face="Aller Light">ALV is in januari gepland
        afaik. Ik heb de data zelf geverifieerd bij de organisatoren
        onder het motto van "Informeer jezelf!". Als jij denkt dat ik
        het verkeerd heb, dan zou ik dat zeker onderbouwd staven met
        bronnen en doorgeven aan de LR.<br>
        <br>
        - Lisa<br>
        <br>
        <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1-12-2013 23:09, coretx wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:ECEFA714-056B-4A5E-BB79-2A8CB368EDD3@gmail.com"
      type="cite">Ben je nu bewust policy laundry aan het stimuleren of
      doe je dat per ongeluk ?
      <div>Alhoewel je data enigsinds correct is, staat de 8e net zo
        "vast" als de 6e van Januari</div>
      <div>* helemaal niet dus *</div>
      <div>Tevens hebben wij pas ergens in FEB een ALV.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Wel Ironisch dat net als bij alle andere politieke instituten
        en partijen de goorste zaken </div>
      <div>zo rond Kerst er doorheen worden gedrukt, wanneer iedereen
        even niet goed op let</div>
      <div>of op vakantie is.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Schat de risico's goed in !<br>
        <div><br>
          <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
          <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
          <blockquote type="cite">
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                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Lisa
                <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl">lisa@piratenpartij.nl</a>><br>
              </span></div>
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                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re:
                  [Algemeen] [Ledenraad] Discussie gezamelijk programma
                  ppeu</b><br>
              </span></div>
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                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">December
                1, 2013 10:46:02 PM GMT+01:00<br>
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                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Algemeen
                Piratenpartij <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:algemeen@lists.piratenpartij.nl">algemeen@lists.piratenpartij.nl</a>><br>
              </span></div>
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                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span
                style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Algemeen
                Piratenpartij <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:algemeen@lists.piratenpartij.nl">algemeen@lists.piratenpartij.nl</a>><br>
              </span></div>
            <br>
            <div>Dat klopt. 6 januari is inderdaad de deadline die nu
              relevant is. Eerder was dat 29 november, NIET 8 december,
              zoals telkens beweerd is. Daarover heb ik zelf contact
              gezocht met degene die de planning het laatst geupdate
              heeft, omdat het mij niet meer duidelijk was en ik wist
              dat ik me er als lid over zou moeten uitspreken zodra de
              discussie openbaar zou worden. Toen ik ontdekte dat 8
              december ALLEEN voor Zweden gold omdat zij expliciet om
              uitstel gevraagd hebben en dat voor ALLE andere partijen
              29 november was blijven staan, heb ik direct contact
              gezocht met afgevaardigden van LR en bestuur om hen over
              mijn bevindingen te informeren. Je kunt deze beweringen
              overigens zelf nagaan door wat links aan te klikken in die
              paragraaf en bovendien de mailwisseling hierover te lezen
              tussen Zweden en Duitsland.<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2013-November/002208.html">http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2013-November/002208.html</a><br>
              <br>
              Ik reken er op dat je nu voldoende info hebt om tot de
              juiste conclusies te komen.<br>
              <br>
              - Lisa<br>
              <br>
              On 1-12-2013 22:39, roberto aka robske wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Ik denk dat je beetje verkeerd
                gelezen hebt :) ik zie daar 6 januari staan zoals Steven
                zegt :)<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">2013/12/1 Lisa
                <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl">lisa@piratenpartij.nl</a>
                <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl"><mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl></a>><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    Ik heb daarover 2 LR leden en
                2 bestuursleden geïnformeerd. Het is<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    niet mijn taak die informatie
                verder te verspreiden en ik heb er<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    inmiddels een te lange dag op
                zitten om opnieuw een samenvatting<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    te geven van mijn bevindingen.
                Geen onwil, maar het zit er even<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    niet in, sorry. Wellicht dat
                het stukje in de nieuwsbrief van<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    november je meer inzicht
                geeft?<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                   <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.piratenpartij.nl/nieuwsbrief/november-2013#Europa">https://www.piratenpartij.nl/nieuwsbrief/november-2013#Europa</a><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    - Lisa<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">    On 1-12-2013 22:33, roberto
                aka robske wrote:<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    Lisa, ik snap niet waar dat
                  vandaan komt want deze situatie is al<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    uitgebreid besproken intern
                  in de LR. Zie de afgelopen LR<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    vergadering (of beter
                  gezegd, hoor/luister). De dingen die je<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    noemt duiden op nieuwe
                  inzichten. Het zou van belang zijn als je<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    die zou delen. De huidige
                  deadline staat op 8 december. Komende<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    woensdag gaat het bestuur de
                  IC benoemen. Last minute, maar als<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    het goed is nog op tijd.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    Maar als jij hier dingen
                  anders in ziet, dan is het enorm van<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    belang voor de LR
                  vergadering op dinsdag.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">    2013/12/1 Lisa
                  <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl">lisa@piratenpartij.nl</a>
                  <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl"><mailto:lisa@piratenpartij.nl></a>><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        Als je deze discussie
                  dan toch op [Algemeen] wilt voeren in<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        plaats van op de lijst
                  die werd voorgesteld, zorg dan in elk<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        geval dat de betreffende
                  tekst wordt gequote, zodat wij ook<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        weten waar de discussie
                  precies betrekking op heeft. Zo heeft<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        die transparantie geen
                  nut natuurlijk, dan zien we alleen<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        maar dat de LR bezig is
                  met discussieren over de CEEP. Dat is<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        op zich goed, maar als
                  je ons inhoudelijk wilt betrekken, doe<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        dat dan wel met inhoud.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        Overigens: "Hoe veel zin
                  dat heeft zonder internationale<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        vertegenwoordigers is
                  natuurlijk de vraag, maar afspraak is<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        afspraak."<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        Internationale
                  coördinatoren als vertegenwoordigers zijn op<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        dit moment niet meer
                  nodig, als dat is wat er bedoeld werd.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        Als er vóór afgelopen
                  vrijdag was besloten, dan had de IC nog<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        kans gehad zelf zaken te
                  veto-en voor ze dit aan de<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        leden(raad) voorgelegd
                  hadden. Nu is er nog maar 1<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        mogelijkheid om onze
                  mening hierover te uiten en dat kan ook<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        desnoods door het
                  bestuur worden doorgegeven zodra de<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        leden(raad) het hierover
                  eens geworden is. Dat neemt niet de<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        noodzaak weg van een
                  vlotte benoeming van nieuwe ICs in<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        algemene zin, maar wel
                  voor dit proces.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        - Lisa<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">        On 1-12-2013 22:07,
                  Nihlaeth wrote:<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Ik vind het prima om
                    dit openbaar te gooien hoor, ik heb het niet<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        bewust binnen de lr
                    gehouden.<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Het maakt mij niet zo
                    veel uit of we het nu policy laundering noemen<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        of niet, naar mijn
                    idee is het etisch gezien verkeerd om dit door te<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        stemmen.<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Een jaar of twee terug
                    hebben we op algemeen een verhitte discussie<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        over immigratie gehad,
                    daar baseer ik mijn schatting op. Al besef ik<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        dat de reaguurders op
                    algemeen niet als representatief voor alle<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        piraten gezien kunnen
                    worden.<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Ik denk ook niet dat
                    wat discussie op algemeen dit op zou kunnen<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        lossen. Bij gebrek aan
                    een wijdgedragen online stemmings systeem of<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        alv zou ik dit punt
                    niet op willen nemen. Het gaat hier om een<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        uitbreiding van de
                    'kernstandpunten', niet een interpretatie ervan.<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Ja, mensenrechten /
                    burgerrechten zijn onderdeel van de<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        kernstandpunten maar
                    dat kan op zo veel manieren uitgelegd worden...<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Ook is mijn ervaring
                    dat er veel protest komt als je dit standpunt<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        doortrekt in het
                    sociale zekerheids beleid of zorg. Vandaar dat ik<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        huiverig ben.<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">        Op 1 december 2013
                    21:05 schreef David van
                    Deijk<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davidd@piratenpartij.nl"><davidd@piratenpartij.nl></a>
                     <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:davidd@piratenpartij.nl"><mailto:davidd@piratenpartij.nl></a>:<br>
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              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        Ik vind het erg
                      misleidend om dit stuk van het CEEP<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                             "immigratiestandpunt" te noemen. Immigratie
                      wordt er helemaal niet in<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        genoemd, wel gaat
                      het over mensenrechten. Ik denk dat dit stuk meer<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        geschreven is met
                      mensen als Edward Snowden in het achterhoofd, Maar
                      in<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        Nederland zou het
                      bijvoorbeeld op die Russische activist die
                      zelfmoord<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        gepleegd heeft in
                      zijn cel waar hij wachtte op uitzetting naar
                      Rusland<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        en een onzekere
                      toekomst.<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        De partij van de
                      verantwoordelijk minister is hard bezig met een
                      poging<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        het concept
                      "mensenrechten" uit te hollen en irrelevant te
                      maken.<br>
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                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                  </blockquote>
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              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2013/11/27/vvd-wil-zelf-toetsen-of-wetten-voldoen-aan-internationaal-recht/">http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2013/11/27/vvd-wil-zelf-toetsen-of-wetten-voldoen-aan-internationaal-recht/</a><br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
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              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        Het voorbeeld wat ze
                      in dit artikel noemen doet bij mij de<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        bullshit-alarmen
                      afgaan maar ik heb het niet nagekeken. Als iets
                      een<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        probleem is aan de
                      implementatie van mensenrechten is dat ze
                      momenteel<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        op grove schaal
                      geschonden worden en de schenders dat ongestrafd
                      kunnen<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        doen.<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                <blockquote type="cite">
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                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        Met vriendelijke
                      groeten,<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        David van Deijk.<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
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                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        PS van mij heb je
                      permissie omdit ook op de openbare te plaatsen.<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
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                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">        On 12/01/2013 08:47
                      PM, Steven Russchenberg | Piratenpartij wrote:<br>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Bedankt voor je
                        reactie Tamara! Ik heb afgelopen week
                        voorgesteld om de<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        discussie in het
                        openbaar te voeren en wel op de<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                               ledenraad-discussielijst/forum. Heb je er
                        bezwaar tegen als ik je<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        reactie daar naar
                        doorzet, of wil je dat zelf doen?<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
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                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Ik ben het met je
                        eens dat het immigratiepunt gevoelig is. Als wij
                        dit<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        overnemen dan
                        volgt daar ook uit dat het in het nationale
                        programma<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        opgenomen wordt.
                        Of de helft van onze leden het hier niet mee
                        eens is,<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        dat durf ik niet
                        zonder meer aan te nemen. Dat geldt overigens
                        voor elk<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        mogelijk
                        percentage. Dit heeft niet zo zeer te maken met
                        de formulering,<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        het lijkt mij
                        sterk dat een groot deel van de partij niet wil
                        dat de<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        mensenrechten
                        gerespecteerd worden, maar met het gevolg er
                        van. Je<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        benoemde het al,
                        het Nederlandse immigratiebeleid zal dan op de
                        schop<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        moeten.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Over de tweede zin
                        kan ik eerlijk gezegd niet makkelijk zeggen of
                        dit<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        tegen de mening
                        van de leden ingaat. Het is voor zover ik weet
                        niet goed<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        besproken binnen
                        de partij.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Persoonlijk kan ik
                        mij trouwens vinden in het immigratiepunt dus ik
                        zou<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        er niet meteen een
                        veto over willen uitspreken. Het is uiteraard<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        mogelijk om in het
                        eigen programma dit standpunt uit te diepen.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
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                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Kortom. Een veto
                        is de veiligste optie. We hebben echter nog tot
                        6<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        januari (ik was
                        afgelopen dinsdag onjuist geïnformeerd) dus we
                        kunnen<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        het ter sprake
                        brengen binnen de partij.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Tot slot moet mij
                        nog even iets van het hart. Het begrip policy<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        laundering is in
                        dit proces niet van toepassing. Policy
                        laundering houdt<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        in dat je bepaald
                        beleid dat je binnen de eigen groep er niet door<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        krijgt via externe
                        organen alsnog oplegt aan de eigen groep. Wij
                        hebben<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        hier te maken met
                        een voorstel (waar wij helaas niet aan
                        meegewerkt<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        hebben) waar wij
                        de keuze hebben om nieuwe punten over te nemen
                        dan wel<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        af te wijzen. De
                        term policy laundering gaat hier niet op. Als
                        wij dit<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        daarnaast in het
                        openbaar doen en de leden de mogelijkheid geven
                        om hun<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        mening te geven,
                        zodat wij die in onze overweging mee kunnen
                        nemen, dan<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        is het een
                        transparant proces geweest. Ik denk dat wij op
                        deze wijze een<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        goede gedragen
                        mening over het CEEP kunnen vormen.<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Groet,<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Steven<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Nihlaeth schreef
                        op 1-12-2013 15:45:<br>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Beste allen,<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        We zouden deze
                          week discussieren over het gezamelijk
                          programma voor de<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        europese
                          verkiezingen zodat we dinsdag kunnen stemmen.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                        <blockquote type="cite"><br>
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                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Hoe veel zin dat
                          heeft zonder internationale vertegenwoordigers
                          is<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        natuurlijk de
                          vraag, maar afspraak is afspraak.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Immigratie<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Persoonlijk ben
                          ik het helemaal eens met dit standpunt, maar
                          het is<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        geen standpunt
                          van ppnl en om die reden policy laundering.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Voornamelijk
                          gevoelig omdat NL onderzocht wordt vanuit de
                          EU op<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        mensenrechten
                          schending in ons immigratie beleid en een
                          rigoreuze<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        verandering in
                          het Nederlandse beleid nodig zou zijn volgens
                          dit punt.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Dit goedkeuren
                          zou dus betekenen dat we ook in ons nationale
                          programma<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        dit standpunt in
                          zouden moeten nemen, iets waar zeer
                          waarschijnlijk<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        50% of meer van
                          onze leden het niet mee eens is.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Voor de rest heb
                          ik nog wel een aantal opmerkingen, maar het
                          staat me<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        even niet bij en
                          ben niet zo helder op het moment. Graag hoor
                          ik<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        jullie op- en
                          aanmerkingen.<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Met vriendelijke
                          groet,<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
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                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Tamara<br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </blockquote>
                    </blockquote>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
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                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">
                        <blockquote type="cite">        Ledenraad
                          discussielijst | Piratenpartij<br>
                        </blockquote>
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                    </blockquote>
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                                 <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Ledenraad@lists.piratenpartij.nl">Ledenraad@lists.piratenpartij.nl</a>
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                                 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.piratenpartij.nl/mailman/listinfo/ledenraad">https://lists.piratenpartij.nl/mailman/listinfo/ledenraad</a><br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <blockquote type="cite">        Ledenraad
                        discussielijst | Piratenpartij<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">PPNL Member & Indie Games
                Developer.<br>
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