There is a water-pumping area just over the border in The Netherlands, which supplies Heerlen and the surrounding places of clean drinking water. So the health risks are immense.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:32 PM, coretx <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:coretx@gmail.com" target="_blank">coretx@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Don't forget to mention that smoking a sigaret under the shower has suddenly become /extra/ challenging in that border region :D<div>
( I don't think so since we get our drinking water elsewhere )</div><div><br><div>On a more serious sidenote; fracking is fracking insane and unpredictable.</div><div><br></div><div>/Samir.<br><div><br><div><div><div class="h5">
<div>On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:54 PM, roberto aka robske wrote:</div><br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Added to this. Since water knows no borders, this could also contaminate Dutch water just across the border. Especially regarding the old mining tunnels.<br>
<br>So there's also interest for the Dutch people there.<br><br>
And yep, it's serious that they want to exploit it, and don't want to actually be liable for the environmental damages.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/5 roberto aka robske <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:evilteddyxl@gmail.com" target="_blank">evilteddyxl@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That also showed up on Algemeen :)<br><br>Maybe make a joint public statement?<div><div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/5 Thomas Göttgens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thomas.goettgens@piratenpartei-aachen.de" target="_blank">thomas.goettgens@piratenpartei-aachen.de</a>></span><br>
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The point with this is this is a NEW way of harvesting natural gas.
It works by bringing water, sand a a chemical mix under high
pressure into the rock and thus pressing out the gas. It's called
'fracking' (google it for some entertainment) and is bound to
pollute the drinking water (to the point where you can actually
ignite it) and cause all kinds of geological changes which is
especially dangerous considering the old tunnels under the coal
region.<br>
<br>
Commercial entities are applying for permits to exploit the gas
around Aachen, but at the same time ask to not be made liable for
environmental impact. (!)<br>
<br>
The NRW pirates had a clear stance against this (and not informing
the public openly) in the election program for 2012.<br>
<br>
Am 05.06.2012 21:19, schrieb Ray076NL:
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ah kijk dus hebben wij ook recht op een beetje gas!<br>
Mja je weet zelf ook dat de media liever bezig is met te bieberen
als met gasboringen. de crisis vinden ze ook leuk.<br>
Waar begin je de discussie robske? is er al een georganiseerd
tegenwoord in duitsland?<br>
<br>
grt, Raymond<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Het kan ook het grensgebied beinvloeden, want het
kan de aardbevingen hier versterken (ik woon in een
aardbevingsgevoelig gebied). Dus daarom zijn de meeste Duitsers
net over de grens ertegen. Alleen zie ik hier nog geen
dergelijke discussie over in Nederland. En bovendien, ik had
gehoord van iemand dat deze gasvelden tot onder Nederland
doorlopen.<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/5 Ray076NL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piraatraymond@gmail.com" target="_blank">piraatraymond@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> ik ben wel
geinteresseerd in een dergelijke discussie.
<div>
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On 5-6-2012 19:33, roberto aka robske wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">Ik kreeg dit van een Duitse
Piraat doorgestuurd ;)<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2012/6/5 Ray076NL <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:piraatraymond@gmail.com" target="_blank">piraatraymond@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> betrek er
iig de duitse piraten bij.<br>
hier in brabant willen ze naar schaliegas
boren.<br>
<br>
grt, Raymond
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<div>Zie hier: <a href="http://www.unkonventionelle-gasfoerderung.de/bekannte-foerderorte/" target="_blank">http://www.unkonventionelle-gasfoerderung.de/bekannte-foerderorte/</a><br>
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Veel lokale bewoners zijn hier tegen.
Misschien kunnen we hier een discussie
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