Well, considering how high profile this is in the press, it is not so easy for US to just extradite him and he is probably safer in a UK jail then out on a street where he could get kidnapped by some security service etc.<div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>- Nicolas</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Qevlarr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qevlarr@gmail.com">qevlarr@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Thanks for your rather lengthy reply, but there is no discussion on<br>
that issue. I am more comfortable with Assange being in Sweden than in<br>
the UK, which has been US leapdog for years. I was just expressing my<br>
worst fear: Assange going to the US.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Kevin<br>
<br>
2010/12/8 Nicolas Sahlqvist <<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> I actually fear his status more in UK then if he gets extradited to Sweden,<br>
> because the UK government may probably survive such a task considering there<br>
> close ties to US that is accepted by the general population.<br>
> The Swedish government got burnt for being a bit too helpful towards the US<br>
> government from 2001 - 2006 when they let US planes land with suspected<br>
> terrorists on board according to the media. The government was not involved,<br>
> the planes were registered as civilian aircrafts. Since they were not sure<br>
> of the status of the passengers, they had to engage in covert operations to<br>
> find out what was transported on those planes and strong diplomatic<br>
> reactions towards US as Wikileaks enlightened in a leaked cable recently:<br>
> <a href="http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/svenskt-motstand-stoppade-cia-planen_5778299.svd" target="_blank">http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/svenskt-motstand-stoppade-cia-planen_5778299.svd</a><br>
> I seriously doubt they want to redo the mistake by extraditing Assange<br>
> unless they want to commit political suicide and the stakes for them are<br>
> high. Sweden got block politic and the social democrats ruled for 65 of the<br>
> last 74 years and the democrats got there first session of more then 2<br>
> mandate periods there goal is to also win the 3rd in a 4 years so they can't<br>
> afford any huge scandals.. Recently the following vague sentence resulted in<br>
> massive press reactions on the net, physical media + radio and TV:<br>
> "6. (s) Swedish military and civilian intelligence organizations are strong<br>
> and reliable partners on a range of key issues, particularly making a<br>
> significant contribution to our understanding of events inside the Russian<br>
> military and in Iran’s nuclear ambitions. The good cooperation on<br>
> counterterrorism, both domestically and internationally, has helped Swedish<br>
> authorities carry out their mandate to protect Swedish citizens and national<br>
> interests. Due to domestic political considerations, the extent of this<br>
> cooperation in not widely known within the Swedish government and it would<br>
> be useful to acknowledge this cooperation privately, as public mention of<br>
> the cooperation would open up the government to domestic criticism."<br>
> <a href="http://rickfalkvinge.se/2010/12/02/hej-fra-cablegate/" target="_blank">http://rickfalkvinge.se/2010/12/02/hej-fra-cablegate/</a><br>
> There was also a 45 minutes documentary where the responsible politicians<br>
> failed to duck the journalists questions and this lead to the opposition<br>
> filing a complaint to the constitution committee (KU) that among other<br>
> things oversees how the government rules the country in accordance with the<br>
> Swedish constitution.<br>
> It does not seem likely they will extradite Assange to US, in particular not<br>
> if there is even a suspicion of a death sentence on such a act. It was over<br>
> 100 years ago anyone got executed in Sweden and the resistance against such<br>
> punishment is stronger today. After the election 4 years ago, a politician<br>
> had to go for not paying her TV licence so they would probably have to<br>
> migrate to some extremely remote location (Alaska perhaps?) considering how<br>
> hated they would become after doing anything that would even indirectly<br>
> endanger Assange's life.<br>
><br>
> - Nicolas<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Qevlarr <<a href="mailto:qevlarr@gmail.com">qevlarr@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Nicolas, "entertaining" is hardly the word I would use to describe it<br>
>> if he were extradited to the US. There is no chance he will get a fair<br>
>> trial there. They will definately go to great lengths to have him<br>
>> hanged for WikiLeaks.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Kevin<br>
>><br>
>> Op 6 december 2010 22:03 heeft Nicolas Sahlqvist <<a href="mailto:nicco77@gmail.com">nicco77@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> het volgende geschreven:<br>
>> > There is some truth in that, it is very hard for a man to prove a false<br>
>> > accusation against a woman, in particular when it is sex or violence<br>
>> > related. They are making the law stronger for every year and there have<br>
>> > been<br>
>> > suggestions about a sexual consent contract from some womens groups<br>
>> > although<br>
>> > it would be kinda pointless in court.<br>
>> > I seriously doubt this would lead to a conviction against Assange since<br>
>> > there is no hard evidence and the 2 ladies who accused him has made a<br>
>> > mess<br>
>> > of the case:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/" target="_blank">http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/12/02/when-it-comes-to-assange-r-pe-case-the-swedes-are-making-it-up-as-they-go-along/</a><br>
>> > I'd love to see this in court, will he get convicted? Public and<br>
>> > international outcry of political prisoner and so forth on national and<br>
>> > international level. Will he get extradited to US etc. for the leak? A<br>
>> > protest storm against Sweden would follow and they would utterly crush<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > there myth of being neutral etc.<br>
>> > It will be entertaining and PP's will get more publicity, it sounds like<br>
>> > a<br>
>> > win win to me! ;)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - Nicolas<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2010/12/6 <a href="mailto:emiljacobs@gmail.com">emiljacobs@gmail.com</a> <<a href="mailto:emiljacobs@gmail.com">emiljacobs@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Ergo, alle Zweedse vaders zijn criminelen :')<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> 2010/12/6 Frank <<a href="mailto:frank87@xs4all.nl">frank87@xs4all.nl</a>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> <a href="http://925.nl/archief/2010/12/03/assange-vervolgd-vanwege-seks-zonder-condoom-niet-verkrachting" target="_blank">http://925.nl/archief/2010/12/03/assange-vervolgd-vanwege-seks-zonder-condoom-niet-verkrachting</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Het is te raar om waar te zijn.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Groet,<br>
>> >>> Frank<br>
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