[Algemeen] Ontwerp verkiezingsprogramma Groenlinks

[jeroen op bohol.ph]

Indeed, it is my impression that the position of GroenLinks is  
genuine, and not
just a trick to attract voters. All other parties, from the left (SP  
(Socialist)) to the right (VVD (Conservative Liberal)) are still in  
the more-is-better camp when it is about copyright. Arda Gerkens (SP)  
was in the same working group on copyright as Fred Teevens (VVD) that  
produced the "make downloading illegal" recommendation, and both  
didn't seem to understand much of the concerns -- even though they  
invited me to their consultation rounds. Other parties either don't  
seem to know or don't seem to care. (Such as PVV and CDA)

I went through all political programs for the European elections last  
year, and
GL was the only party having anything positive in their program. If I  
were the pirate party NL, I would suggest a list-connection with GL,  
so that voters can vote PP without fear of loosing their vote if PP  
doesn't have enough votes to gain a seat.

For those supporters of the PP who are otherwise on the right side of  
the political spectrum: GL is a far cry from the parties that created  
it a long time ago, and has shifted quite a lot in the  
progressive-liberal direction.

Having said that, I believe the proposals of GL are not yet good  
enough, and the
need for a PPNL remains.

One of the reasons for creating the PP in the first is to get our  
positions on the political road-map. GL is picking them up, we should  
applaud that. We might consider bringing it under the attention of  
other parties as well, as I think, if we bring our position  
rationally, and explain our arguments, others parties outside the  
mainstream may also join the bandwagon. (thinking about the  
ChristenUnie, for example).

Jeroen Hellingman.

Quoting Arjen Kamphuis <arjen op gendo.nl>:

> On 23 mrt 2010, at 13:44, Nicolas Sahlqvist wrote:
>> In the beginning they try to ignore you, they tried the same thing   
>> in Sweden in 2k6. It is a lot harder for GroenLinks considering   
>> they lean on CE from PPSE so how long can they uphold the charade,   
>> I assume you got some plans to counter attack? ;)
>
> I don't think attacking the one *established and experienced* political
> party that actually agrees with you most of the time is a good
> strategy. Especially since they may very well be the *only* party in
> parliament to support our views.
>
> Proper friend-foe identification is an important step towards effective
> political action, especially for small parties without much resources
> or experience in the 3D-chess match that is parliamentary politics.
>
> -- 
> With kind regards,
>
> Arjen Kamphuis